Staples: The realignment battle for No. Ed. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “Espn is telling B12 through back channels that they would like to broker a deal to convert LHN into a Big12 network and secure all of B12 tier 3 rights for 7 years. " Arizona is the wildcard that could keep UConn from getting an all sports invite. ACCN/Pac12N broadcasting agreement talks fell apart when the Comcast Pac12 scandal broke. Big Papa RockChalkPac voted on SDSU and SMU again. Could also mean ND is rethinking. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48 Feb 24. and @Mountaineer_Ste. The Big East commissioner ran the conference like a basketball conference and treated football as a second class citizen, which is why Miami, VT, Boston College then WVU, Pitt and Syracuse left. B12 might be inviting 2 schools that have applied to further weaken PAC and maybe force WA/OR hand. If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. 159. 18 Mar 2023 01:39:09“@PAULHAR16697272 It’s a long story but he held up B12 expanding with FSU and Clemson because he swore he had Notre Dame in the hook to join as well (being friends with Swarbrick). Stanford has not applied to the B12 but has reached out to gauge interest. Sounds like he expects a number of his current members to go else where. Previous offer for 24. Likes. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Finger pointing, yelling amongst leadership, and very pissed at ESPN for the hit piece on their conference while they are supposed to be negotiating in good faith. 27 Feb 2023 17:36:19“So it’s possible AZ will not be having their board meeting tonight. and. ” ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. I actually don’t want more western schools. Miguel. ”“Going by remarks made at Pac12 media days by Oregon its looking like they are leaning into to shorter term offer from espn and unequal revenue sharing. Would help them reclaim partially, a soon to be lost market, and actually aligns very well culturally with PAC. It got nasty from what I’ve been told. Things have escalated. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. When information hits I have a duty to share (even if the text comes at 12:15am and I have to work at 6am!). “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. Jul 12. 🤷🏻♂️ I honestly feel sorry for most of the schools in the PAC. Memphis and Boise(FB only) are definitely the front runners. Would need to probably add 6. @MHver3 This is the case with any conference not named SEC. ”What did I tell you? No new movement to share with PAC presidents. Up to 75% would be streaming. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. “@BobOThomson I mean it’d be a fun game to play on Saturdays 🤷🏻♂️. We are indeed talking to Rich Rodriguez to return to WVU but as of now it’s only talks. ”Log in. Quote Tweets. “Those of you worrying about access to playoffs due to harder due to W/L record if B12 drops scheduling FCS and moved to 10 conference games-relax. @cwishn. 2:49 AM · Jul 19, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. Likes. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. Phillips had a call this afternoon with Kliavkoff and Yormark/Bowlsby about an alliance of the 3 conferences. Staples: The realignment battle for No. I’ll update as I get more info. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. ”GK about to get shipped to China. Learn to create and view Twitter threads to provide additional context or updates. The in-fighting is bad currently with those schools. 1. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. MHver3 @MHver3. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. twitter. That’s it. SMU especially due to political and religious connotations…table that fwiw. Yormark has a vision. ”MHver3 @MHver3. I’m packing it up. One that seems to have a lot of steam is that Pac12 and Big12 leadership will be meeting Tuesday to discuss a full-on merger. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. ”Hearing that Pac12 presidents have vehemently rejected 100% streaming proposal from apple. @MHver3. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. help. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. “And then the Tier 3 which would see PAC12N move to Apple with all the rest of the total sports content for about $40m per year”Less than $200m currently. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. B12 has a chance to get into 20m households with additions. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. Most of it was in depth financials done by our media consultants. No one has control. “@kenneyclone @JBWinstonTX No. 17. I don’t normally delete anything. All 3 tiers. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be the best move. @bobtrollsby. 7h. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. “Looks like we have a new ESPN offer for PAC12. MHver3. (Ralph Freso / Associated Press) Sources say preliminary talks have started on a merger between San Diego State’s current conference and the Pac-12, which is in. But not the question asked. See new Tweets“And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. ”“@blakeblahut @AveCope No. ”Notre Dame is not a factor. MHver3 @MHver3. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. You ready for this? Oregon/Washington 16. Sign up“60 seconds to PACmidnight. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. 19. OMG I was wrong. Oregon was the third choice as a. #PACinShambles”“ACC hoped that by getting Stanford it would compel ND to join. That’s it. Power5 (or 4) will most likely have an autobid for their champ after playoffs expand. ”Gonna have envoys from the Rockies and the desert here at the B12 meetings in West-by-God Virginia. Replying to @Brewenor. Likes. “Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year. Replying to. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Log in. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Hearing ESPN is taking (or already has taken) their $250m total package offer to the Pac12 off the table. Retweets. WVU alone makes like $10m from theirs a year. 02 Jun 2023 22:14:16. BC, Wake, Cuse. More interesting news is that OR and UW may not be a shoe-in for the B1G. No football home for Uconn in exchange either. 13 Apr 2023 02:07:57 @MHver3 They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their best case to join on the field. Baylor is too. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. ”“Also telling that PAC12 is saying they are waiting for B10 contract to close before they “know anything”. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Replying to @MHver3. 7:34 PM · Jul. Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. I don’t hate the PAC. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. Show more replies. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. That was a guarantee. ”@MHver3 · May 25. 251. 2. @MHver3 BYU will raise that profile as they would come in and immediately be at least the second most valuable media rights member behind KU (as much as I hate that) due to their worldwide following. MHver3Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. That’s it. ”See new Tweets. 12:57 PM · Jul 27, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone Sorry for deleting the previous tweet. You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. Once the ACC declines the ridiculous terms of the offer ND is free to pursue other options. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. 4 PAC schools plus Kliavkoff pushed for the conference to take the ESPN money and the other 6 schools refused. UConn and Nova have proven you can win NCAA titles from the Big East. I just wish I could get some info from the PAC but that has dried up the past few days. " / Twitter. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. bob trollsby. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 3 — is made for TV. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. ”Log in. Also the FB CCG. “Utah hasn’t withdrawn their application but they do seem less urgent and seem to be teetering. An olive branch was extended by GK to BY with terms that favor B12 this time. They are content to sit at 16 and wait out Notre Dame. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. “@BobOThomson I don’t really have a source close to that program but I can just reiterate what I tweeted a couple of weeks ago: Utah isn’t a priority and is very low on B12 radar”“@RChalk94 I’m not trying to get anyone to believe me. @MHver3. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the. We don’t have the endowment they have. Grant of Rights required or will come with a clause for reductions assigning each school a percentage of what their worth is to the overall contract. While I’m not “back” yet I do have some things to share since speaking with a source today. $320m per year for 12 years. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Likely not enough votes there to oust him yet but the cracks are showing. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK will ask for an extension on the 4/15 deadline We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 1 — and for No. Sign up“@ChiefsInsider There’s a legitimate academic snobbery by the presidents and they are trying their damndest to go down with the ship. 2. 5m was for 6 years” @MHver3 I’m hearing that Kliavkoff has plans to visit UNLV, Fresno St, and Boise St over the next few weeks. The third is a big market school with a great history that has underperformed in recent years. Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. “I’m hearing several Pac12(-2)schools are in complete pandemonium tonight. Appx $75m per year. Replying to. Something new that moves forward and forgets the past. His rumors are interesting and just believable enough ,. . Meanwhile ND maneuvered their way to a sweetheart deal with ACC and was able to leave the faltering BIgEast. @MHver3 Big12 is possibly only eyeing 4 of the 6 to stop at 16 for now. 13. Sign up“So with those for and the state schools (assuming Utah and AZSU get B12 invites) you have a core of 6. ACC would like to lock up the pacific coast with WA/OR/Cal/Stanford additions as it would be a huge infusion to ACCN. 22 Aug 2022 21:27:34Log in. We currently get about $4m for that same content. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox” MHver3 @MHver3 One final tidbit this afternoon:PAC is currently trying to be as attractive as they can while they see what their media rights could be if they stayed together. ”“Sorry I’ve been away so long. ”“I don’t normally get a lot of MWC rumors but I did get a good one this morning that the MWC is fully expecting the PAC to be either dissolved or weakened severely enough that they fully expect ASU, WSU, OSU and maybe even Utah to be partners in the very near future. Nothing will happen until GK presents the deal to Pac12 presidents. “And what’s interesting as well is my B1G source is telling me if ND decides to join B1G then Stanford is the desired partner to come with ND and they will stop there for possibly forever. If B12 adds the right 6 PAC schools it can see its yearly payouts go above that $35m per school number the way the current deal is structured. ”“@DeathrowDerham They want first pick of the top game weekly, best out of conference games not beholden to the other schools tv contract, conference championship game football, and first choice basketball. ”““We haven't decided if we're going shopping there yet,"-Kliavkoff, spewing venomously at the conference that just recently decided a merger with his conference wasn’t financially attractive. Of course “official sources” are going to downplay the significance of any talks schools have had Witt other conferences BY has allegedly been engaged all evening with 1 particular school to the west. 3. Found. Washington was their next choice. This happened sometime in the past few days. MHver3 @MHver3. 16 Jul 2023 00:27:09. OMG I was wrong. MHver3. ” MHver3 @MHver3. I have nothing to gain-no monetization, no click bait links, no podcast. Sources from Colorado are telling B12 contacts that no deal is being presented tomorrow. Likes. “@RChalk94 Governance would make the final call though. and @JimUSFSig. There’s no reason to add anyone else to dilute the tv money just to have an even number. The BYU factor”Interestingly enough Stanford and Cal would not be part of this proposed merger. @m_iguel_ca. “CU and AZ have been given “all the time they need to make a decision” by BY as B12 is in no hurry to add. 6:21 PM · Jul 5, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ”On the eve of a significant B12 meeting got a few tidbits to offer up. I’ve maintained that schools are still waiting on the deal to come in before making a decision. And CFP is going to probably double for everyone soon. ”BY possibly has a 3rd media partner on board if Fox is a no go for adding $ for new additions. Still waiting on my main source to give me the go ahead to share. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. PAC will just expand with lesser brands and pay those schools peanuts to feed ORWA more for the duration of the next deal and then maybe B10 will come calling. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. That’s all I’ve got. USC and UCLA moved the needle a lot. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. ·. Houston and BYU applications are in. ”My source is confident of a few things: 16 Mar 2023 13:22:493:25 AM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. @MHver3 CU board is in lockstep to pursue B12 membership if GK doesn’t come through with promised deal by June 30th…. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. ” March 7th. “@RChalk94 But Washington and Oregon add $60+ million per year apiece to a tv deal when you look at the data” “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). He’s also telling me the big catch with the apple deal would be research grants to member schools-an area apple has been historically lagging behind other tech companies. I believe BE still would’ve added several of the schools that they invited later. Current Pac10 members are looking at about $200-$250m per year on the open market. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. Sign upFwiw I’m hearing the ION Tv thing was a red herring fed to McMurphy and Kliavkoff is only a few days away from having 2 final proposals in hand to take to his schools for voting. This will be my last tweet for a bit. Idea:…Pls tweet what the time will in 5The soon to be PAC defections are “on the precipice” of sealing the deal. Guess the state of AZ to BIG12 has died down though. Things are getting crazy!”“And the endgame is probably 16 teams. 35 seconds to PACmidnight. ·. ”“@HazzardCoEng Would be a fun league but splitting that tv pie 24 ways would have us in the same boat as pac12. And they all already know the current numbers. AZ too. MHver3 on Twitter: "@StevO_1960 It’s in the ESPN contract. Air Force and Colorado State have also been in contact with Kliavkoff. Not sure what’s going on there yet-just hearing preliminary info-but hearing it from multiple sources. that will be accurate. Gonzaga is in for basketball. Army/Navy make the most sense from a. It’s to actively pursue expansion and re-form the expansion committee. AZ has and AZSU problem. 5m. We’ve seen lots of tweets from reputable sources, but I’ve also seen a lot of interesting rumors from MHver3 on Twitter . MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3 The worst-case scenario for WVU, of course, is the Big 10 standing pat and the Pac 12, still with UW and ORE, picking off several Big 12 teams and leaving the rest of the Big 12 in the wilderness. I don’t think that’s an option for us. 239. There’s a catch. So at least more spots open. ”Log in. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools joining B12 could see their collective value closer to the full $250m yearly that ESPN was willing to pay all 10 in a vacuum @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 If we receive applications from all 4 of the corners schools (we already have one from SDSU from last year) it’s likely we initially only invite 2 and then wait for tv negotiations to open up before adding whomever the other 2 will be. If the ND/Big 12/NBC rumors have any truth to them, I imagine the Big 12 became even more attractive for those schools. Tweet about Oregon and Washington 1,843 Views | 20 Replies | Last: 3 mo ago by historian ScottS 2:44p, 7/27/23 Breaking from my source: Oregon and. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. Replying to. (Read full thread)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Could also mean NBC/B12 won’t happen. I don’t think anyone is getting in with a negotiated out clause. Beating out even the 2004-2011 BIgEast. 2. 27. @MHver3. ” Confirming through my B12 contacts that according to what has been shared between BY and a few PAC presidents that CW and ION are indeed in talks for PAC12 broadcasting rights. "Hearing that UConn is leveraging for an all sports invite from B12…and BY and networks are listening. FSU is the most attractive maybe. “@AveCope Big12 believes it will be able to offer $36-40m with OR and WA plus control of Tier3 tv rights. ”“How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. 19 Jul 2023 04:22:28. One feels they were sold a false bill of goods when they joined. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. ” @MHver3 Jul 22 How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. 5% each. Ugh. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. SawyerBrown94 @RChalk94 · Jul 20. Likes. I don’t hate the PAC. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. Talks are indeed dead for a merger. ”Some drips of info hitting the bucket. Apple offer could be months away-Apple moving slowly and it could be as late as July for negotiations. 10 Feb 2023 03:36:01Checked with my source regarding B10 proposing half share for ORWA (per Colin Cowherd). Pac12 can file an injunction if they choose but it would be a slippery slope if they wanted to do that and suspend those teams. FOX would be on board for heavily discounted PAC programming but we aren’t there just yet. @MHver3. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 5 billion a year with their next contract (and BTN) and will now wait and watch the landscape. 1 — and for No. ”ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. See new Tweets“@TreJacksonStan @kg4cy I guess that’s subjective. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Amazon gets more first choice. But simply never happens. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. Retweets. Louis Oliverio. There’s so much information to pour through and so many moving pieces that B12 leadership alone can’t keep up. Retweets. And it’s a huge sticking point with their BOG. 1. Interestingly enough there is another school in these discussions with Boise that is interested in joining just Olympic sports…”“@tsaundry13 You’ve convinced me. Tomorrows another day!”This merger would trigger pro-rata for espn contract and allow fox to reopen their contract-Amazon could be a part of this as well from what I’m hearing. “The Buffs are an inevitability now. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. 6. ”Log in. Utah athletic director Mark Harlan needs just four words to disarm the Arizona-to-Big 12 narrative. ”Log in. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good option. 11. ”Log in. Valuation of per school is higher if omitting 2 of the 6 because the projected media dollars are very similar with or without those 2. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Fox already approved pro-rata for both. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. “Pac12 fans should redirect their anger at the B10 and USC and UCLA. 13. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. U conn not make this stuff up!New development to share: 2 PAC presidents plan to call for a vote of no confidence in GK at next weeks meeting. So not just a. And GK. The additional money you see with the total conference payouts includes bowls, CFP, ncaa. Might Washington and Oregon be making the same offer? 🍎 😂 😂 😂. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. ”“@IceDevilCA @TheAPBerry I was meaning had the second ACC raid not occurred. Found. And they all already know the current numbers. Replying to @MHver3. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. Sign up“Tonight’s Big12 vote isn’t to invite schools. Murky version is: ducks are in a row but the can is getting kicked down the road. Sign upFinal tidbit of the night: a source in WVU AD thinks the March 7th meeting will be to issue invites to at least 2 BB only schools and to possibly accept and approve applications for 2 all sports members. ORWA balked because they stand to make more from an uneven distribution model-even if PAC has 2-4 more defections”As I said in a previous tweet: the Buffs are an inevitability. ”“@JamieExorcistof You are correct. Would the B12 take them?”Sources telling me B12 plans to extend acceptance to Gonzaga following the NCAA tournament. @MHver3. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. And there are ongoing discussions on how that money could be generated through selling the extra inventory. @MHver3 FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. Could also mean ND is rethinking. 21. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Mountaineer Steve. Likes. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the AZ schools (because there is value in those markets) MHver3 @MHver3 GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. I was responding to a person that shared an article that AZ was meeting with B12 on Tuesday. Bradley Berry M. 1. ”MHver3 on Twitter: "CU and AZ are NOT worried about exposure by joining B12 as most if their games would be lye window games so that report is most likely coming from Utah or AZSU. ”“@kiwicanuck76 I’m told it’s because the conference has 4 states and 8 schools on their no travel list. “You can’t make this stuff up! (Though I will be accused of it anyway 😂). My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. I’m definitely not giving up my CONFIDENTIAL sources. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet”” “@flugempire @YouTube The numbers are not where the presidents want them. 1:39 AM · Mar 18, 2023. FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. ”@MHver3 I don't know what the rumors are you're talking about, but it's pretty simple. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. As did VT. I’ve shared that here last summer. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves.